for hillary clinton? did obama despise bill? tonight live from washington with the explosive details from the sec well to "game change" and joining me to talk about and and more, who else on halloween but an -- ann caulter? >> and boston strong and stronger. the city bounces back after the bombings. i'll talk to the most injured man from the attack and find out even if you're not a red sox fan, we all have a reason to celebrate. the big story, the breaking news on the 2012 white house race, brutal and personal and we only know half of it. "the new york times" is reporting the new book "double

done" reveals obama was poised to put hillary clinton has his running mate. candy, explosive stuff in this book. >> you know, if you're a junky and there at the time and remember certain things going on, it kind of helps everything come together and you're right, the lead of this at least according to the new york times version of reading this book is that top aids to the president said we need to go and poll tabs. they were low 40s, about where they are right now and they were worried abe reelection. so they poll tested the idea of switching out joe biden for hillary clinton who was obviously popular secretary of state and numbers were huge and did and ultimately decided putting her on wouldn't gain the president enough to kind of overcome the sort of blow back

there might be by replacing joe biden. now, there is no evidence, in fact, that president obama knew of this. the report of the new york times and certainly in the write up doesn't look as though this book found out whether the president knew and in fact, i know you seen the tweet from david pluff that ran the first campaign and heavily involved in the second said there was not ever any consideration of a vp and an hrc switch, that is a biden, hillary clinton switch, not even entertained by the only person who mattered or most of us back to halloween. that's david plouffe. interesting talk and remember, piers, at the time, in the late fall of 2011, there was a lot of talk about well, what if he switched out joe biden for hillary clinton? >> what about the relationship between barack obama and bill clinton? it seems from this book

extremely testy but mainly from the president eastside, almost like he couldn't bear to spend too much time with president clinton, which seemed bizarre to me. >> no, remember their history. remember when hillary clinton ran against bill clinton -- i'm sorry, ran against barack obama in a primary season. he took on barack obama, the obama campaign which i was covering at the time was severely offended by the former president, sort of suggesting they thought that the president -- that president obama then candidate obama wasn't up to the job. not surprising their relationship was gone like this. i thought one of the really interesting things that caused tension in the early parts of the campaign actually happened on your show when bill clinton had this to say about mitt romney. >> the real issue ought to be what has governor romney advocated in the campaign that he will do as president? who has president obama and what

does he propose to do? how do these things stack up against each other? that's the relevant thing. there is nothing in terms of getting up and going to the office and basically performing the essential functions of the office, a man that's been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualifications threshold. >> so here we have the former president of the united states, a democrat, praising mitt romney's business record, which the obama campaign was visibly trashing on the air, so it was a little counterproductive and in fact, apparently caught the attention from hillary clinton who suggested from her aids that bill couldn't go there anymore. >> also a couple bizarre insights into that relationship, one they played golf together but can't finish the 18 holes and when president obama walks off he saids to an aid reportedly that bill clinton he can take in small doses and another time it's portray that bill clinton almost hijacks the

current president and keeps him in the limousine physically grabbing his arm and refusing to release him. it all sounds fairly odd, doesn't it? >> honestly when you look at these two men, frmer president clinton was a very excessive guy. he loved to talk politics. he loved to talk strategy. he loved to have people listen to him talk about strategy and policy. president obama is a little more removed than that. that's not kind of his thing. he's also talking about someone he feels had insulting things about him. in the end here is what mattered. in the end the president obama turned to bill clinton for advice, particularly after his poor performance in the first debate and in the end after he won, one of the first people he called was bill clinton. so politics can be overlooked, you know, bad friendships or bad feelings if it leads to a victory and i think that's where they ended it.

>> finally and briefly, if you don't mind, candy, will it be rather icy when the vice president arrives for his morning coffee when he arrives tomorrow? >> i would think probably the happiest person tonight is hillary clinton not to be sitting in the white house as vice president because they are in deep trouble now, so i think she's probably grateful. i don't think joe biden will be that pleased but the white house is out there and aids out there saying the president didn't know anything about this, although, william daily did say yeah, we did that because we thought it was due diligence but the president has folks out there protecting him saying wait, we didn't come close to this and the president didn't know. >> having said that candy, the president's answers to almost everything at the moment seems to be i knew nothing about it. >> i'm not -- >> that seems to be the issue. >> he needs to let his aids talk for him. >> candy, thanks very much indeed. >> thanks, piers. my next guess, ann caulter.

can't think of anybody scarier than ann to join me. >> i know nothing about this book so you'll get my spontaneous reaction. >> the republicans on the rack, you were a villain to the beast and everyone piling into gop and ted cruz and almost complete full circle. now it's the democrats on the right and the president and this book has them ripping each other's throats out. you must be distraught? >> yeah, like christmas every day. ted cruz fighting against obama care a few weeks ago is looking better. i do not believe the hilary story. >> i could believe that? >> look, somebody may have said let's present this to the president. >> this white house is pretty ruth'. i can imagine senior people saying we got to protect our guy. let's chunk biden under the bus. >> i agree they are ruthless --

>> this is the chief -- >> i know -- >> he's admitted it. it's one of his ideas. >> sometimes they put out claims they are considering someone just to like due up the femmests, make them happy, we were thinking of a woman. for one thing it's always bad to switch your president main stream, looks like you made a mistake and number two, despite biden makes career moves, he has a common man's touch that is absent -- >> i think he's good for barack obama, he sort of humanizes him. >> when clinton was president and -- well, you weren't here then so you may not remember this but he kept nominating attorney generals all of whom has nannies they were paying off the books and joe biden had to go to the white house and explain most americans don't have nannies. he's like the regular touch guy. >> what do you make of the chris christie stuff in the book? basically he looks like mitt romney considered him and then

didn't and considered him again and eventually trying to make out that somehow they were concerned about his background and so on, something chris christie denies. would it made any difference to mitt romney if his running mate was chris christi? >> i don't think so. the reason he lost is there was this surprise enormous vote from elderly black women. they want to keep obama in the white house, first african american president. so they won't change their vote. they are still coming out. the other was a deficit of working class white males in the upper midwest, the places hit but the auto bailout. i don't think it makes a difference christie is on the bailout. i think they are both great reporters -- >> the game change was not really contested. they obviously got good sources. >> which reminds me of another reason i don't think they were considering hillary clinton. among the things bill clinton said about obama when hilary was

running against them was teddy kennedy, about barack obama a few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee. >> really? >> yeah, it's in my book. >> does that mean it's true? >> it's in their book, it's from "game change". >> let me talk about obama and clinton, they don't like each other and today they learned to live with each other and benefit from each other in the sense that bill clinton having the current president on his arm is good for business and on barack obama obama obama's side it's good for business. >> it i don't think it's a friendly as a relationship as it seems to be. i think there were a lot of statements like that made. i think clinton sort of wanted to be for one thing the only democratic president in history elected to a second term and

barack obama did one thing, get more than 50% -- >> it got nasty between obama and hillary clinton and bill was right in the middle of that. it is his wife after all so i can imagine things were testy. let's turn to the president and obama care because i got angry yesterday, i must say, when i saw a couple things flying around social media. the repeated times the president told the american people you want to keep your doctor or plan, you can. no qualifications, if that plan isn't good it automatically gets replaced, nothing like that. >> right. >> i thought that is a bare faced untruth. >> yeah. >> period. >> yeah. >> you can spin your way out of it as much as you like. it's an untruth. >> that's right. the best defense we hear now is yeah, but if he had told the truth they never would have passed it. he's doing it for their own good. you idiots we know what is best for you. you wouldn't belief us but we know, we went to harvard. >> at what point, though, does

if obama care, if they get the technology right, which they may do in the next few months gets big take up and even out the edges and begins to apparently work well. at what point does the republicans repeated actually fly against the national interest? >> i think it will not work. i mean -- >> hypothetically if it does. >> it can't. it can't. everything republicans said about it is coming true and forbes had a thing today, it will be on anncoulter.com later. they can say the health plans they are forcing you into are much better, come on. do two gay guys need maternity care and prenatal care and maternity leave? no. all these things are required by insurance now. 94 million, that's what the white house predicted would be

thrown off insurance plans they liked and picked for and what we saw from sebelius, the head of the department of health and human services issuing regulations is we know better. how dare you ask me these questions, i don't work for you. >> barack obama opinion poll ratings collapse further and the republicans get into power. ted cruz may well be the guy that is the nominee, we don't know but he might be. if he is, his father has come out with incredibly antiinflammatory comments which i want to discuss with you after this break. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls

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no, it's not ann coulter's bedroom. the first lady and president got in spirit and arguably scarier with comments made in 2012 but ted cruz' father raphael cruz about the president. watch this. >> we need to send barack obama back to chicago and like to send him back to kenya -- >> what does he mean by that? we need to send barack obama back to kenya? >> three quick points, one it's clearly a joke.

i give speeches and the kenya references kill. >> send him back to kenya, what does that mean? >> nothing. it's a reference to kenya and people laugh because it's -- >>est not making -- >> he's not making a joke because he thinks -- >> it's clearly a joke. >> it's clearly not a joke. >> i think it's a joke. we'll dispute that and move on. you know who brought up the berther thing, it was hillary clinton who first brought up was he born in kenya? who shot it down? american spectator was never talked about on fox news. i discuss this in my three books back, you heard about it every night. the conzektive media shut it down and point three, jfk's father was a nazi sympathizer, nobody cares about what somebody's father thinks. >> this was linked to mother jones and sent to cruz and the selected quote taken out of contect mischaracterizes the contents of the message like h americans he feels americans are

on the wrong track. pastor cruz doesn't speak for the senator. i don't think he's mischaracterized. >> i say it's a joke. you don't believe it. there are different rules for jokes -- >> you can see why somebody making a joke sending a black man back to africa could be taken offensively. >> i think it would be much more offensive for a president's father to be a nazi simple theser. >> we're not talking about 50 years ago -- >> jfk is the most worshipped democratic -- >> he won't be the nominee -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> and he's been dead for 50 years. so it's irrelevant this to this discussion. >> because he's a democrat. >> is there a nasty side to the tea party -- >> no. >> which seeps through with comments like that. >> no. >> does it represent a mind set. >> it's a joke. this is the guy's father.

>> it's funny, really? >> it always kills because it's silly. >> silly or do people believe it. >> american spectator, national review, fox news specifically went and produced the birth certificate within the first year of obama's presidency and who start that rumor? the hillary clinton campaign. >> let's move on. i have bill mauher on the show this week. >> i'm on his show tomorrow. >> such an entertaining fair, not at least of which what he had to say about you. >> ut oh, that's trouble. >> there will be arguments in a party of ideas, that is one thing as i point out in this book, democrats have an advantage. all they want is power. they spend lives figuring out how do we get elected to run other people's lives. >> you got her on your show friday, don't you? what do you make of her

argument? >> always perfect, perfectly wrong. right, it's the democrats who only care about power. look, every politician cares about pow tore a certain degree. >> love watching your face watching bill mauhr talking about you. it went from slightly smiley to i'm going to slice him up. could you imagine dating bill? >> no, i think not. would you ever date a liberal? >> i'm not discussing who i would date? no, i wouldn't take dinky guards. >> of course republicans crave power, of course they do. >> well, as i recommend beginning of chapter three of my book, i say we have to site facts and my facts are lots of republicans came out for, say, nixon's impeachment. not one single democrat voted

for the revolve l of bill clinton and the bush tax cut john mccain voted against them. when it came to obama care, not one single democrat voted against it including one that gave up their seats to vote for it. they enforce party discipline. we're too busy see arguing and have half -- not half of but a small portion of the tea party on talk radio all the time saying stop focussing, please can we get a majority. they are going after republicans they consider slightly unpair. i'm thinking we go after al franken and larry andrew and flip democrat seats. >> your name also came up in the interview and we discussed dick cheney. let's watch this. >> there are some elements like fox, like your show that i think are seriously objective and reflective what i think a lot of

americans believe. i do find the mainstream media is often times what i would consider off base or as bias. >> so fox is the voice of reason. >> is he the ill legitimate father of ann coulter? >> got to put the question to you, he's not, right? >> i'd say our politics are slightly different but yeah, i like dick cheney. >> do you? >> yeah, not on everything. i think he was -- i think he was more en -- i don't know what he would have said about syria. i was totally for iraq and afghanistan, at least the way bush handled it and -- but not generally going into wars without thinking them out or without a clear plan for victory as there was in iraq. we had a democracy, votes and no more terrorism and i object to obama pulling troops out of iraq

and pointlessly sending them into afghanistan. >> let me ask you this, there is a big battle in your party, right? >> yes. >> senator cruz, i can see a guy with a plan and a brain. >> right. >> he's getting support and a good talker and allen told me one of the brightest students in harvard and he could win the nomination. could he win the nomination? is it technically possible for a guy like ted cruz to be the republican nominee? >> sure, i hope so. i mean, it's very hard to make predictions this far out. i've gone back and looked at who was being talked about, notary public knee, 18 months out and never end up, either in the primaries or one ponlt into the primaries, so it's kind of crazy to be speculating about that now but senator, governor, articulate. >> can a tea party

representative, such a vocal one, can he do it with his current policies as he has -- >> oh, yeah. >> or will he inevitably have to move to the senate. >> not on the things he's talking about. obama care is falling apart now. he's probably the most popular -- >> was it worth shutting down the government with all the pain that caused? >> well, we didn't shut it down. harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate -- >> ted cruz and his renegades shut it down. >> they passed bills simply defunding obama care and democrats want to do two weeks later and the final offer we'll fund everything in obama care we want congress do live under it. he's been quite well vindicated and obama care and more and more people are thrown off plans and finding out gosh, everything republicans told us about this is true. >> how will you be celebrating halloween tonight? are you going out? >> i usually, it's my favorite holiday, i usually go to the halloween parade in new york and it's the only bad thing about

being in this lovely city -- >> are you going to dress up and go down sunset boulevard in a wacky costume? >> i'm going home and going to bed but tomorrow night i'm going to a party after i tape with bill mahr, i'll wear his jacket and go as him. >> lovely to see you. >> good to see you. >> a boston marathon survivor shows us what boston strong really means that's next. ♪

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>> big pappi, david ortiz telling it like it after the red sox won the world series, coming back from the worst attack on u.s. soil since 9/11 and paid tribute to the lives lost. a signal of boston's strength. with me now is mark who lost a leg in a bombing and under went another operation and if you want to help with medical bills, go to fund me.com. welcome to you, mark. let me ask you first of all, what was your reaction when ju saw the red sox win the world series and the outpouring of love for boston strong? >> it's great. i mean, the red sox are behind all us victims the whole time. in my icu room, four of them came and visited me after they were visiting children on the floor above me at mass general

hospital and asked if there was any bombing victims still in the hospital, and of course, i was still there and they came down, paid me a visit, off graphed a ball, hung out, chatted it up. they are the real deal really behind us. i had shane victorino, mike cobb and daniel were actually in my room and they hung out with the family like they were just guys there to support and really concerned. >> it certainly felt like they were all playing for all on you guys, everyone who got injured, the families injured and lost their lives and for the city it self-and america. how are you doing, mark? you lost a leg in this appalling terror attack and fears about your other leg. what is your condition at the moment? >> sore, real sore. like you said, i did just have

surgery on my right leg. they cut it due to an infection in the bone. i'm doing good. my spirits are good. i got a surgery in january on my left food, trying to save that still. just the world series and stuff like that and halloween and the holidays takes my mind off of it, you know, and like i said, the red sox have been great to not just me, great to all the victims. you know, they had quite a bit of victims on the mound throwing out of those first pitches and doing the center piece out there in the outfield. they are great. i think they have been, you know, those guys are the real deal. that team is -- they are just chemistry and they are a team and they play with their hearts. >> what does being -- what is the phrase boston strong mean to

you? >> i mean, to me it means the first responders, the people in our city. i don't take it as -- for us the victims. i don't feel it fits us. i mean, the victims are strong, don't get me wrong but i feel more of the city, the people that support us, the victims, that is boston strong. that's the backbone behind us, the teams, you know, all the teams local teams here in boston all just the boston people and everybody across america, it's not just boston strong. you know, this nation is strong and everybody has been supporting us and that's what i feel boston strong is about. >> well, mark, you completely -- >> we couldn't do it without you guys. >> yeah, i mean, i think you're right. it an extraordinary wave of support in boston towards people such as yourself but i think they are inspired by your

courage and determine nation and refusal to be beaten by what happened to you and i want to wish you the very best to your recovery and congratulate you and everybody in boston on that fantastic world series win. thank you so much for joining me. >> thank you very much and thank everybody. >> i certainly will. very brave man. coming next, john took the iconic photo at the marathon. he was back at the big game tonight and joins me with another powerful voice from the city.

they gave us so hutmuch mor than entertainment, they gave us hope, something to cheer for and something else to talk about at a time of deep sadness in our region. >> senator ed markey. you heard from the most injured survivor and i want to bring in reverend walker and boston globe photographer who took a picture from the bombing. welcome to both of you. reverend walker very inspiring interview with a survivor, one of the worst injured of the survivors shows me the spirit of everyone connected with boston following that appalling attack.

>> absolutely, and we certainly wish mark and his family the best as he continues to struggle with his recovery, but it is that spirit. it's that spirit of not giving up the it's that spirit of community. it's that spirit of hope and that's what keeps us going in boston. this is a great time to be in this city. it is just electric. >> john, we spoke many times since that dreadful day. you were there last night, a very different day. whats the atmosphere for you like personality to be there for such a great moment for boston? >> to me it was magical. it was an amazing night to be where i was, to cover, you know, i consider it a historic event for the red sox to win the world series and, you know, such a terrible year that we had as a city and what amazed me the most was to see the fans standing probably for the last three innings on their feet, you know,

rooting for their team and then there was this moment after the game was over where the fireworks went off, and this cloud of smoke just december sended onto the field and as the smoke dissipated, all you saw was in the grass the carved be strong that was cut into the grass and for me it was very emotional to see that and it was almost like, you know, hollywood planned this. it was the way the wind took the smoke in there and the last time, you know, there was smoke like that for me was at the marathon finish where it was a totally different end. >> we're actually looking at the pictures you took, amazing pictures, the ones you're december skrabing and as you said a very different end to a similar kind of at most tear in the air there. there was also a very poignant moment involving your coat. tell me about that. >> you know, it cold at the games and i'm in the outfield in center field and i found a coat

in my closet that i haven't worn since the marathon, and when i put the coat on, i reached in my pocket and there was a medal from the boston marathon, the an vrsry medal that was given to members of the media and i almost felt, you know, i looked at it and felt that was an omen of what would happen and i fete it brought good things and a touching moment for me to see that medal which i totally forgot was in my pocket. >> reverend, what does it say about america? america has been in the war financially, military, crisis in washington dc with selfish politicians putting their interest before the country. here with boston in the last six months you had this extraordinary spirit, very much to me as an outsider the very best of america. >> absolutely. the very best of america but also like you said, a city that

has gone through the very worst of the world and we have been strong and per severed. i think the message to everyone and the reason this is such a wonderful story is it has a message for everybody. it's a message for a little kid whose in school. it a message for poor people. it a message for people trying to survive as we all are these days. it is that you can believe. you can have faith. you can keep perseverinpersever. you can rally against all odds. this team was in last place last year and it's the fairly tale, the stuff of bible stories. it's what gives us hope, and people definitely, we need inspiration and we need hope. particularly in times like these when things are very difficult for all ofs and when we are so easily kind of pitted against each other, this gives us a message that no, this was a team that won. i loved what pappi said -- i

think i've heard so many interviews about this team not being necessarily the greatest individual players but a team that wanted to work together and had heart and worked in detail. that the messages for all of us. that's stuff we can all use. that's why the city is so amazing because this is a city that has legends and here is another one and it makes us all feel good. >> something great about a guy called big pappi. he has a great name to lead the charge in all this. let me ask you, john, about the new york marathon because it will be a very moving occasion for many reasons. it's the anniversary of hurricane sandy. it's a major marathon coming after boston. what do you think the he is sage will be? a lot of people will wear ribbons in memory of those who died in boston or injured, what message would you like it to send, the new york marathon, to the world, if you'd like? >> i think the message is that

any city cob strong and boston is strong and boston is getting stronger. i think the new york marathon is one of those great races in this country, and i think there are going to be, you know, runners there who are running -- who ran in the boston marathon who maybe didn't finish. i think they will be running for causes for the under privileged and for different charity organizations, just similar to the boston marathon and it's -- it's a great cause and i think, you know, if there is one thing to remember about the boston marathon is that people will cross the finish line and i think president obama said it when he visited boston after the boston marathon bombing was people rise and get up and cross that finish line and i think that will be the goal of everybody at the new york marathon. >> i think your right. john, reverend walker, thank you both very much indeed. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, i'm joined

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>> as an astronaut coal until chris has logged 4,000 hours in space and his book breaking into the international space station with a swiss army knife being temporary blinded and loving every minute of it. astronaut and author chris hadield welcome. >> thank you. >> you're a fascinating guy. i want to spend an hour with you. let's try and cram what we can into five minutes. the great thing about you is host people associate astronauts with very dramatic glamorous but when they get there, it's not much interesting stuff going on. you how did you feel when you did it? >> i was against the idea originally. it seemed like a weird psychedelic song from the 60s where the astronaut dies at the end. but it was my son who was really

key in the social media handling of the flight who said, dad, everybody wants you to record this. you've got to do it. he rewrote the words so that the astronaut lived. i recorded it onboard. i had a musician friend of mine that put that fine instrumental underneath. and then it was released through evan when they put together the video. i was dumbfounded at the reaction. you should listen to your children. evan was right. but you said what 18 or 19 million people? >> amazing. >> it is amazing. and i'm really pleased. >> and david bowie himself called it the most poignant version of the song he had ever heard. >> i didn't know he said that. really? i got an e-mail from him but i hadn't heard that. that's lovely to hear. >> what does the e-mail say? >> oh, just he said he really liked it. i think he said, brilliant, space boy, or something like that. but that's delightful to hear that. i'm really proud of it.

i think it came out really nicely. it kind of took an old idea, rerecorded it, but it also showed people that the space station is more than just a laboratory, it's also kind of an extension of humanity, kind of an interesting new perspective. so it really was a lovely thing to be able to be a part of. >> talking of lovely things you were able to be part of, you went to see "gravity" the other night. i heard things didn't go well. >> no, that's from a satire site up in canada. it's so funny to read those articles. i was actually dish think the first astronaut to see the movie "gravity" after it came out at the toronto film festival. and they actually had me down on stage with the director and with sandra and the writers and such. and you're showing clips of it now. it is the most visually beautiful and accurate space movie ever made. if you want to see what it looks like to be out on a space walk "gravity" is phenomenal.

the plot is very hollywood. not a technical manual. but sandra does a great job. it was a lot of fun. i mean, everybody agrees it's a fun movie to go watch. >> for the viewers who won't get the joke there, there was a hilarious satire cal site which had you going to see "gravity" and storming out, being removed by security guards screaming that isn't right. what's the matter with you? very accusing. i shou i interviewed mark kelly. he was critical of it. he said if you get into the details, i've heard other top scientists saying that. should we be doing that with the movie olympic "gravity" or the fact it inspires people to once to be in space does- >> i was inspired by "2001 space

odyssey" it was really inspiring for me. i wasn't inspired because it was a training film for what i was going to do as an astronaut. it was just something that stretched my mind and showed me maybe a perspective i hadn't seen. i agree with mark and all the experts. of course "gravity" is not an astronaut training film. it's not supposed to be. no one goes to "x men" or "spider-man" and says that couldn't happen. it was an inspiring film and the visuals are really compelling. if it inspires some kid to say i'd like to go see that myself mission accomplished. >> you spent a total of six months in space, chief of the international space station operations in houston. the chief commander, basically the george clooney figure that communicates directly with astronauts in orbit at mission control. this is every little boy's dream that you have led, wasn't it?

was it all it was cracked up to be when you dreamed of this? >> it was this little boy's dream too, piers. i dreamed, i was inspired by the first astronauts, specifically by neill and buzz walking on the moon when i was almost ten. and it is -- i ask myself that question. is this actually going to be like one of those things you hope for and it's a disappointment? it is, especially space flight. is one of the few things that is better than you dreamed it to be. it is a fascinating combination of things that are barely possible, of a view of the world that is so unfathomably beautiful the colors and textures as you go by it five miles a second and with everything else, the emptiness of the rest of space right there below you in between that. it is just an amazing new human perspective that these inventions have allowed us to see. all the little kids tonight that are dressed up in hallowe'en costumes walking around as astronauts, the things that are putting them into those

costumes, those dreams, really were absolutely came true for me. and i love the whole experience. i was 21 years an astronaut, and just an amazing human adventure to be part of. >> it's fantastic. the book is called "an astronaut's guide to life on earth" a riveting read. i can't believe we just have five minutes. i'd love to be in the same city as you sometime soon and have an hour-long show talking about space. because "gravity" has the whole country talking about it. do it properly. >> i'd love the opportunity. there's so much to talk about and so much opportunity. i'd love the chance. thanks for the invitation. >> great. i'm going to make that happen. chris, thank you so much for joining me. >> nice talking to you. >> we'll be right back.

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